Tuesday, July 12, 2011
Setting Them Up To Fail
Then I started thinking about this and couldn't quit laughing.
Ok, back on track. Let's take a look at the top 15 rookie point getters from last season; just look at the graph (that will probably be terribly formatted).
Player
|
Team
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Pos
|
GP
|
G
|
A
|
P
| |
1
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Jeff Skinner
|
CAR
|
C
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82
|
31
|
32
|
63
|
2
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Logan Couture
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SJS
|
C
|
79
|
32
|
24
|
56
|
3
|
Michael Grabner
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NYI
|
R
|
76
|
34
|
18
|
52
|
4
|
Tyler Ennis
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BUF
|
L
|
82
|
20
|
29
|
49
|
5
|
Derek Stepan
|
NYR
|
C
|
82
|
21
|
24
|
45
|
6
|
Jordan Eberle
|
EDM
|
R
|
69
|
18
|
25
|
43
|
7
|
Kevin Shattenkirk
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COL, STL
|
D
|
72
|
9
|
34
|
43
|
8
|
Taylor Hall
|
EDM
|
L
|
65
|
22
|
20
|
42
|
9
|
Brad Marchand
|
BOS
|
C
|
77
|
21
|
20
|
41
|
10
|
Cam Fowler
|
ANA
|
D
|
76
|
10
|
30
|
40
|
11
|
P.K. Subban
|
MTL
|
D
|
77
|
14
|
24
|
38
|
12
|
Bryan Bickell
|
CHI
|
L
|
78
|
17
|
20
|
37
|
13
|
John Carlson
|
WSH
|
D
|
82
|
7
|
30
|
37
|
14
|
Magnus Paajarvi
|
EDM
|
L
|
80
|
15
|
19
|
34
|
15
|
Jamie McBain
|
CAR
|
D
|
76
|
7
|
23
|
30
|
Oh it's so bulgy, it's like a moose. Anyways; top 15 in point scoring among rookies there. Now let's look back to the rookie crop from 2009-2010 where Tyler Myers won the Calder.
Here we've got the 2009-2010 rookie stats juxtaposed against the 2010-2011 follow up campaign. LEGEND: If the box is yellow the number is greater than the rookie season, if red, then it's less, if blue, then it's identical. Got it? Good.
You can see a lot of the top tier forward prospects, those whose ice time increased or maintained top line status, saw their numbers continue to grow with their development. Duchene, Tavares, Benn, Anisimov, Bozak, and Kane all saw their numbers increase with the jump to greater ice time with greater linemates.
Where is there a slump? Outside of Erik Karlsson, the defensemen languished with their increased role and ice time. Hell, Del Zotto found himself in Connecticut part of the season. Without being protected by some vets, and in Myers and Del Zottos cases, sometimes flat out exposed, really saw a shift in their production.
More in depth? OK. Tyler Myers was slated on the 1B pair with Henrik Tallinder during his rookie season, not necessarily playing night in and night out against the oppositions greatest talent. In fact, Myers' "Quality of Teammates" fell from .182 to .078, while his Quality of Competition stats still stayed above 0 (one of only 2 Sabres defensemen in 2011 with such numbers). In addition to that, he regularly got PP time, which was diminished when the Sabres brought in Jordan Leopold as a free agent. So, look at that, increased responsibility, with weaker teammates, and less PP time, means less results.
Let's take it one more year back.
So here again we see a pretty similar set of circumstances where folks fell back to earth from their rookie year to their sophomore campaign. Let's specifically just take a look at what happened to Patrik Berglund from 2009 to 2010.
Remember in 2008 - 2009 the St. Louis Blues traded for Alex Steen (for some reason) about a quarter of the way through Berglund's rookie season, creating a crowded dot for the centers in St. Louis, not to mention creating a competition between Berglund and fellow rookie TJ Oshie while Paul Kariya was out with concussion issues. Oshie won that battle; moving up in 2009 - 2010 to a line with David Backes and Paul Kariya (almost 40% of the time) while Berglund remained on a lower line with Andy McDonald and David Perron. Also fun to note; Berglund played about 15-20% of his rookie season alongside Brad Boyes who's production dropped from 72 points to 42 during this same time frame.
So I think you get the picture here. There's a couple of reasons why rookies who seemed so promising are really actually being set up to fail (easy to see in hindsight right?).
1. Decreased ice time due to circumstances uncontrollable (Free agent signings, return from injury)
2. Quality of Competition increases
3. Quality of Teammate decreases
4. Coach's Call
(Well that makes it sound really freakin' simple)
So when you take a look back at the top rookies of 2010-2011, who's poised for a step backwards?
I've got 3 in mind right now. Michael Grabner, Derek Stepan, and PK Subban. Why? Boom.
1. Michael Grabner - Grabner had a fantastic run, playing in all situations for the Isles. So where's the issue? A full season of Nino Niederreiter and Kyle Okposo pushing him. Even at only 15 minutes of ice time per night, with the Isles back healthy, Grabner might not get those same opportunities as he did last season after being pulled off waivers. Not to mention the fact that he doesn't play with Tavares.
2. Derek Stepan - The Rangers Center situation suddenly got very crowded after July 1. With Brad Richards and Brandon Dubinsky ahead of Stepan on the depth chart, and comparable statistics to Boyle and Anisimov, there won't be nearly as much ice time to go around, and it won't be with Gaborik or Callahan.
3. PK Subban - I'm far more sure of the above than this selection, but I still think Subban will take a step back. With Hamrlik and Wisniewski heading out of Montreal, Subban's ice time is certainly going to rise from 4th amongst the D corps. But, with that, Subban will see his quality of competition rise quite a bit against other teams top lines, so we could definitely see a Tyler Myers effect on his numbers. Throw in the return of a healthy Andrei Markov, and what that means for Subban's powerplay time, and you've got yourself a recipe for a step back.
Think about it.
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I'd fix the tables if I wasn't so lazy.
Dubinsky played LW all last season. Stepan will be fine.
"I'd fix the tables if I wasn't so lazy."
You don't have to, you did good enough for me. Keep it up.
Now going off topic, I have to ask you. Will you ever finish your article on the "Guardian Project Breakdown" as I really enjoy it and hope you would complete it soon. Thanks.
PS - Also look at the comments on the Guardian Project Breakdown as a couple of those comments have suggestions who the Capital and Senator mascots are based on.
Post more. Don't die off.
That was a good write-up actually, I'm in a keeper league that has one rookie per team. I'll be on the hunt for a new one this year so what you just said will definitely impact my draft decisions.
Gotta disagree with Grabner. First, he's still the fastest guy in hockey. There really is no way to defend that beyond hooking him down and taking a penalty. Second, he was already handling the hardest assignments (being on a line with Frans Nielsen makes that happen). It's not like he was up against the other team's 4th line. Third, for most of the year he was getting next to no PP time and a lot of PK time. He was 2nd in the league in shorties behind Frans. So at worst he will continue to receive no PP time and at best he will get much more time and with it the extra goals that come with the man advantage. In addition, Okposo was on his line for the 2nd half of the season and it didn't hurt his production at all. Having Nino around will make the 3rd line better but I don't think it will hurt the second line's production. It's not like he will get less minutes. Really the only argument I could see for Grabner being less successful (beside injury) is his high shooting %. One could argue that it is unsustainable. But for a player that gets a breakaway a game you would kinda expect a higher than normal shooting %.
In the end there is no way for opponents to adjust to his speed. Even when the D plays back he finds a way around them. Unless something happens to that speed he should be good for 25+ every season (though possibly a lot more).
Could not disagree with you more about Grabner. In baseball, football and hockey, speed is very hard to defend. If you don't respect it, you get beat flat out. When you try to compensate for it, you get beat in other ways. I honestly look at him to have a more Bossy like sophomore season, absolutely blowing out his numbers from last year. Also realize that he had a few games off early in the season and was being used sporadically under Gordon while he learned "The System." He really broke out under Capuano without opportunities for the easy goals. He also missed a few games down the stretch due to the birth of his son. If he put the minutes in that Skinner did, he might well have walked off with the Calder.
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